This paper explores both supervised and unsupervised topic modeling for spoken audio documents using only phonetic information. In cases where word-based recognition is unavailable or infeasible, phonetic information can be used to indirectly learn and capture information provided by topically relevant lexical items. In some situations, a lack of transcribed data can prevent supervised training of a same-language phonetic recognition system. In these cases, phonetic recognition can use cross-language models or self-organizing units (SOUs) learned in a completely unsupervised fashion. This paper presents recent improvements in topic modeling using only phonetic information. We present new results using recently developed techniques for discriminative training for topic identification used in conjunction with recent improvements in SOU learning. A preliminary examination of the use of unsupervised latent topic modeling for unsupervised discovery of topics and topically relevant lexical items from phonetic information is also presented.